into the shoes. I hope I am never ready to go there. But they charged me $12. Makes me question if this is a genuine product. 5, and there is some toe room at the top, so maybe if youre wanting a tighter fit order one size smaller, but it doesnt bother me at all, just something to mention! This fabric does not stretch so I always avoid this fabric or size up. (For those curious I was listening through a Fiio E17 connected to my iPhone digitally using Apples Camera Connection Kit). Amazon needs to baby sit their sellers on returns /Refunds , not AMAZON CUSTOMERS! Got these to replace a pair of crocs boat shoes with the openings on the side. It doesnt say it in the description, and had I known, I would not have purchased.