So, I went on the hunt for something more durable. Audio quality is better than I expected from a $100 set, though Im not by any means an audiophile. Feeling a little edgy. Sono comode da indossare e tengono caldo. To my ears these iems beat HD650 when it comes to detail. Pay the premium and buy from a physical retailer. I bought an xl and immediately could put it on the 2nd line of hooks. (See pictures). Listened for about 2 mins before getting a head ache and taking them off. Exactly as described and well made.