Meaning if you stretch the fabric, you can see every line in the fabric. 5 hours and they let so much wind noise in and if one falls out while doing 20mph you will never see it again. I have a foot injury and am limited in what shoes I can wear. Bought these Jun 29, and by Sept 21, they are completely worn out. The USB and AUX cables go into the front of the unit - not the best design there. A 14 should’ve given her plenty of growing room for at least another year. Pros:+ Holds a VR headset, 2 DS4 controllers, 2 Move controllers, and headphones. I bought these for my wife! I highly suggest buying your own 3M tape of you purchase this product. However, I only gave them 3 stars because I want to see how they hold up after regular wear.