Also, as I said the sound card they give you isnt great. I like the way it feels. Puede que haya sido defecto de fábrica pero no los quise comprar de nuevo. Seek better. They are soft though! This product is the real deal. My pinky toes rub a little, and the inside of my foot at the base of my big toe just hurts after wearing them a few hours. Air Bud came out when I was 7 years old. The lead is plenty long enough and the mute switch works fine. but Im here to talk about the Torrent Pros.